#19: Learn How To Become A 6 & 7-Figure Entrepreneur With Dalaney Davis
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Our guest on this episode, Dalaney Davis, is an expert at turning information into transformation.
In fact, he wholeheartedly believes your mindset and energetics are everything—and he’s here to share that with the world.
Since he learnt the word entrepreneur, he knew it was the life for him. He and his partner are the powerhouse duo bringing personal coaching into the mainstream through their business, Untapped. You’ve already met his partner Briony in earlier episodes on the podcast—listen to episodes 8 and 9 if you haven’t already heard her story!
In this interview, we dive into how cynicism is an entrepreneur's superpower, the importance of intrinsic motivation, and how to master your energy. Dalaney discusses types of intuition and what you really need to consider when making big decisions. There are so many layers to this conversation, this is one that will get you in the high vibe state and want to take action!
“Every time I'm resistant to something in business, I just go, Is this a mindset gap? Or a skill set gap?
What's the mindset I need? And what's the skill set I need? It's a fundamental question.”
Find Dalaney’s latest workshops at https://www.untapped.nz/
And his social media at https://www.instagram.com/dalaney_davis/
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Episode Transcript
Emily: Hello my beautiful friends and welcome back to a another episode, we have a super special guest today, Dalaney Davis. So Dalaney is actually one of the coaches from untapped and I did a previous podcast episode with his partner Brian you so you can go back and and listen to that super epic.
I'm super stoked that I managed to get Dalaney on. So quick background on Dalaney and what he's been up to. So he's actually spent years building tech startups, sustainable businesses and thought leadership practices. And he's a true believer that your mindset and energetics is everything.
He's super passionate about helping emerging entrepreneurs and leaders get out of their own way, so that their vision can expand in the world. He is a master at harnessing the power of psychology driven principles, self mastery tools, and essential strategic businesses, business skills for for success. And personally, having known Dalaney for some time now, we spent I met him and Brian when we were in Lisbon.
Every time we sit down and have a conversation, he's always blowing my mind with something new, and really challenging my perspectives on mindset and business. And I've come to really value come to really value his his advice, his ideas, his thoughts.
And I'm so excited for today's conversation and sharing these things with you. Because we dive a lot into the entrepreneurial mindset kind of what it takes to be successful in the business world. How to master your how to master your self, your kind of like self discipline, how to cultivate a successful mindset, and successful habits, and also how to break through those limiting beliefs as well.
So for anyone who's wondering, do I have the entrepreneurial mindset? Do I have what it takes to succeed in this business world? Then this episode is for you.
I'm super excited. Let's dive into it. Hello, Dalaney. Welcome to the Freelancers podcast. Super excited to have you here.
Dalaney: Super excited to be here.
Emily: Super stoked. So I'm really excited for our conversation today, we're gonna dive into a lot of things, but primarily, like mindset energetics. I'd love to kind of start from the very beginning, like I just asked you a question.
When did you start your entrepreneurial journey? And what was really interesting was you you said, well, from a really young age, you know, you started when you're a child, and you saw opportunities. So I'd love to hear like, what did you always know you are going to be an entrepreneur or kind of be in the business world when you were a child? Was that something that came on later?
Dalaney: I always knew I was gonna be an entrepreneur from when I was around, like, a classic, like five years old, like, what do you do for work when you grow up? Very interesting. I was like, what? I don't know. I mean, this finding out and learning the word entrepreneur, at the age at the time, I had no idea what it means. I just knew it was something in the world, and it had significance to it. And it was a big one word.
And I'll be honest, I probably only figured out how to spell it properly, like maybe two years ago. But then from the very beginning, I wanted to be an entrepreneur, but I do have a bias there. And that both my parents, entrepreneurs, and my grandparents, entrepreneurs, like everyone in my family has always had their own businesses. And it was something that my dad always implied to me is like, you will never have freedom. And you'll never make money working for someone else. And that's always been ingrained in me.
Emily: So then, okay, would you say the entrepreneurial mindset is something that you are born with, or it's something that you can cultivate and develop over time?
Dalaney: That's an interesting question. I remember at a beach. We are training youth in recharging both personal development with personal development. And I want you to know a programme called the social experiment. I remember talking to a young teenage guy who was maybe like 15, and he asked me a similar question.
One thing I noticed about a minister who was really cynical, who saw lots of problems in the world, he saw lots of problems with climate change and social injustice and the schooling system and products and everything. And I was like, I remember just tapping on the shoulder says you One entrepreneur. And he was like, why it's like you see problems, you see things that other people don't. And that's why it wasn't cool people, if you're cynical, it's actually a superpower, you can actually see problems and entrepreneurship and leading and growing businesses is all about solving problems.
So if you can see problems, you're an entrepreneur and to cultivate it, I think it's just starting with, like, what's wrong with my life right now? What do I don't like? My friend? I just got a voicemail from him. He's building an app to manage his marathon Atris. You know, like, that's a problem he had, and I was building an app for it. I'm just like, just little things like that, like, what problems do you see? And that's truly what entrepreneurship is to me, but then discover it?
Emily: Because then I think what's really interesting, I'm trying to figure out like, is it because your parents were you had family who are entrepreneurial, and the way they pass it down to you the way they've talked to you the conversations you had the mindset, the beliefs, was that something that was sort of like passed down to you? And I'm just thinking people who don't have entrepreneurial parents or don't have people in the family who are entrepreneurial? How can they sort of like, cultivate that mindset, as well as it's something that people are just born with? Yeah. Or is it something that you learn over time?
Dalaney: It's free, everything can be learned. That's one of my beliefs, everything, every thing is a skill that needs to be required. And just like in business, so that entrepreneurial mindset is it is a skill you need to think about.
One of my favourite things about my partner, Brian, and he's also an entrepreneur is she doesn't have entrepreneurial parents. She is the first entrepreneur of her family. And she is wildly successful. She's one of our successful entrepreneurs. I know. Yeah. And one thing that she taught me really early and they gave us a business was this notion of beliefs and mindset.
I remember being in a seminar with her, and I was probably on page 54 of my notes, you know, I was furiously writing down every single primer, every single one liner, every single resource that the people share me. And I'd like to bias pages got two pages of my work. One of them was actions, she literally described on accident she was going to do after the seminar, and the other was beliefs. And it was literally, what do they believe about money? What did they believe about teams? What did they believe about business? And when you realise that, that your beliefs are your ultimate filter, it changes everything.
So say, for example, my earliest story of the young guy with the cynicism things so that is I'm, you know, I'm a piece of shit, I'm so cynical of the world. Or if you shift your belief that my cynicism is a superpower, I see problems, and I'm a born entrepreneur, that completely changed the game. So that's the first thing. They're their belief systems understanding like, what do I think about stuff? When I think about money? What's the first thing that comes to my head? When I think about working for people, what's the first thing comes to my head, entrepreneurship marketing a little bit, the first thing that comes to your head is your belief. It's your Gestalt blueprint.
So you want to challenge that thinking, and change it basically, to a better one. And it's easy, you literally just think differently. I know that some years in the making, I still have been a critic, and I still have these limiting beliefs circling my head, this is realising that assumption, you pause for a moment and go, Why am I resistant to say this marketing I need to do for my business, it's like whatever did I believe it might not work, whatever it might not work, as I think I'm not smart enough. Or what that means, is really need to challenge your thinking, to the point where now myself, I'm kind of reckless, and I just got to find out and just kind of dive in. And that's how I sort of approach everything in business.
So my question that I'm getting adopted is Yes. And how do you do that? To start looking at people you admire, start looking at books, listening to podcasts, listening to this interview, right? Now, listen to what I'm writing as well on the same podcast and be like, What about business? What we believe about marketing? What are medical liens about sales, and borrow those beliefs, and you'll just watch everything become so much easier.
Emily: Totally. It's like, the mindset of people who are where you want to be like, surround yourself with that mindset. And I feel like a lot of it, even if you're not there yet, even if you listen to podcasts, or read books like that, slowly it does get ingrained into your subconscious. And it does affect them how you think in the future and the actions that you take, right?
Dalaney: What am I feeling favorite things as well on the action and mindset piece is something called your diminisher. And that's kind of your go to strategy that's stopping you and holding you back and really analyzing the shit out of that.
So say for example, my biggest diminisher of my life has been procrastination. I just procrastinate to the cows come home like university. Oh my goodness, I was the 1159 kind of pm submission kind of guy and and that took me years to even get to that level. And I think it's when We run a stand that level as well. And I call what I believe about myself or whatever I believe about this task. And something there to separate yourself from it really free money is everything, your resistance, everything you have resistance to, is because you suck it is because you said it's because you suck at it, and learn some new skills and get better at it, right?
But we lose this ability to learn as we get older, we're terrified to suck at stuff. So we don't bother trying. But when you're a kid, like you don't give a shit you for whatever you get that cup, you draw it, I've been pitching Drew, and I get a lot of mixed, you play a terrible musical note and you just carry on. And one of the biggest things that entrepreneurship is really enjoy sucking, like get good at just trying stuff, right?
Because if you can, every time I feel frustrated at something or I'm resistant to something in business, I just go Is this a mindset gap? Or a skill set gap? Right? What's the mindset I need? And what's the skill set? I need?
It's a fundamental question. And oftentimes that skill set and then you take action, you learn some things and you get the mindset and you're right flying. So the resistance comes from a better understanding the mindset behind it, and the skill set you require.
Emily: That's interesting, I'm gonna have fun on that one, because I procrastinate a lot. And I have to say sometimes it's just like, also for me, maybe things I give myself a task. And it's like super overwhelming. And it's like, super, it hasn't been defined yet as well. Or I don't quite know, it's not as easy to hash out. And so yeah, I procrastinate because skill set and maybe mindset as well, actually both coming together.
Dalaney: Particularly. Yeah, oh, pick one, one. And it set me free, which really connects to the skill set mindset. And this is also really good for marketing and sales. So business, is that a confused mind says no.
So if you're looking at your to do list, and you've got like, a landing page, for example, and you've never done that off, that's never going to be ticked off to do this, right? Because it's confusing you've never done before and can't think about the copy of the imaging that takes what takes that tell us all of it, you're confused mind says no. So what you have to do is you have to keep breaking down your tasks, until you get what I call a melody. And a melody is usually your age where it's like, I gotta learn some stuff I'm gonna have to dive in and I can actually do it.
That's a beautiful thing to think about as a confused mind says knowing how to break it down until I can get a yes for myself and move through that procrastination resistance. Yeah, something I always do, particularly if I need to make a document. And I know that it's like reporting documents can be really boring when somebody is the first thing I do I know how to do is I write on my to do list like that document. And it's debriefing October, right? Yeah, I did it, and then made some kind of builds from there. So getting confused.
Emily: And like making, like giving yourself small ones as well. Yeah, totally. Um, bring me back to say this entrepreneurial mindset. You can I also think that you can have an entrepreneurial mindset, but then what sets people apart from people who actually go ahead and do the thing and are successful, and the people who might have an entrepreneurial mindset, but don't end up being so successful. And I'm taking from our conversation so far, like mindset is a huge part of it. between success and not being successful, and I'm thinking also, from my point of view would be like values as well. Your why behind why you do what you do. Is there anything else that you would say like what? Yeah, what sets people apart?
Dalaney: When it comes to interesting is an interesting story. I have a car I was metering back in the tech startup world, I used to beat it, and shit, incredible tech offering for the church industry, any better, but a really great offer. She just secure.
I think, Rocco chief, I'm doing this thing. She's got a great team of advisers, that was gonna be an absolute smash tag, and she was just petrified. Three days later, she was confidently presenting on stages, raising this money and then, you know, three days five days later, and everything was secured and often lighter. She didn't know what to do. She was absolutely petrified. And that was my sort of aha moment where it doesn't matter the external relevance of entrepreneurship.
What I mean is this dark water that I don't have any money, don't worry that you don't have any time to worry if you need mentors, you need coaches, that's all external. So understanding what are your external drivers here is really important and your internal drivers as well. Now the her the reason why she comes down is because you have may Mission was just to secure that funding.
And once you had achieved that, she kind of like, achieved her goal. And she actually lost motivation in some way, because she wasn't actually fueled by anything internally was like, and then the business has failed the businesses, the public no longer exists.
So what's this mean? There's a game coming back, what do you hope is that values of like, if you build something that's not values aligned, I not internally intrinsically motivated, you're gonna burn out, you're gonna hate it, you're gonna hate every day. And that's why, like, I see so many times again, you must start with your values. And a simple way to understand your values is, how do you want to experience your business? How do you want to grow your business, say, for example, someone who values community and connection will build a very different business to someone that values freedom, and speed, for example.
So me, I highly doubt with freedom and innovation. So my everything I create, everything I produce is what's going to create maximum freedom for myself and my clients, and how to stay hidden innovate this game. And that's how I constantly drive myself. And those are my values. Now, I've got a company we have on TED, those a different values. Again, it was a combination of Brian and myself and untapped. And once you understand those values, that dictates can we hire, operate, how we conduct clothes? How do we create content, what our offerings look like, all based on those values in those decisions.
For example, leading with generosity is one of our values. Now, we recently did a giveaway for our untapped domestic event coming up. And that is a case in point and went to CES session was clearly because its values aligned, really with generosity. So of course, we're going to give away a ticket. That's what we do.
And it says, and then we're hiring as well. Like we, every time we look for someone go called did they go above and beyond? Are they generous, and how they operate and what they give out in terms of output. Again, they will tell us, and I notice stuff is so drove into your heads at the start, you hear about the stuff and you never really cross it over and actually do it in terms of your business.
But once you realise that, this is how you can operate your business and it becomes just so easy, because you've essentially got a map. Okay, is that treasure? X marks the spot? This is my view, this is the this is the decision I need to make because it's aligned with my values.
Emily: Yeah, it's like almost like a compass. And when you come to like, decide should you hire this person or not? Should you do this or not? Then you've got a compass almost to say like, Yes, this is this is aligned, this is not aligned. And and yeah, I love that. I know that. So for your personal brand, and also with untapped the work you do with untapped. Like mindset and energetics is like such a huge part of your work. And I think business energetics is becoming a much bigger thing. But still there are so it's such it's a new concept. I think energetics in the world of business.
And I think there are a lot of people out there who think it's quite fluffy. And it's not like it doesn't make sense to a lot of people. And I think a lot of people would rather put their time and energy into learning strategies and yeah, doing the things instead of working on their energy. I just be curious like can you speak a little bit about why energetics are so important to you? Or how that affects business.
Dalaney: So, something to consider as your as a human being as a human entity. If you took everything away What are you if you took everything you did not on all your staff, all the people everything away? What are you essentially energy and to me energies is also aligned to your emotions because I believe at the end of the day, all we have is our emotions.
Live a rich and fulfilling life as in mastering our emotions and expressing the most we can and to live a fully express life within our emotions and with our energy. It's mastering that mastering your energy. And for me, one of my favourite things I get entrepreneurs to do is separate the business into themselves, the business and the clients and just draw like a triangle with each there. Or if I'm with someone at a table, I'll give it to the table and put my name and put when they put them there and ask them simply like cool. Which parts of your business and your clients and yourself where's the energy flowing? What are the energy separate, like, what gives you energy and what takes your energy.
So for example, social media content is a big energy driver for a lot of people, right? That's put it so you have you your business and you draw an hour from yourself to your business. And this I give energy to content. And so I've got this client that pay me lots of money. So that's giving energy to your business, but they're really annoying, and they really need and they take up hours of my time, that takes energy away from you. And just doing a simple reflection of drawing the sprinklers and seeing what gives them takes your energy away from your business and your clients and yourself. You can rehash everything and build a business that gives you energy.
Now, the stats value values, right? Because you can look at something like cool does that for me freedom? Does that give me freedom? Yes. Okay, that gives me energy. Does that not give me freedom? Okay, it takes away one energy. And you can really map out like, every single thing in your business, every single thing to do your clients and yourself and do this map and you see energy and you go, Oh, shit, okay, I get it. And then the question is cool. However business, how do I attract clients that give me energy?
Emily: Hmm, is the goal, then? Not for it to be balanced, per se, but for it to kind of have more energy from the business? The clients flowing to you? That's kind of like, Yeah, cool.
Dalaney: And it depends on this is one of my favourite things is opinions. Like, because I'm such an individual risks, in the sense that I love, I believe that strategy and thinks that our business and everything was purely based on the individual.
That's why the work I do, it's more about the entrepreneur, founder and being the business so that when your values, what are your strengths? When you can't you want to answer your question here. It's what stage of business are you in right now? Right? Are you in a growth stage? Or are you in a sustained stage, where, if you're in a sustained stage, you probably want the business to be giving you energy, so you can sort of recuperate, regenerate, figure out where you want to take the business.
Next, if you're in a growth phase, you've got to put the energy somewhere, so you probably going to be putting more energy into your business, you probably going to be able to put last year and I'm testing my work as well, we had a foreign growth phase, this year has been more of a recuperate phase, we do sort of garden and 2330 with back to girlfriends where it's about, let's put energy back into the business.
And that's that's sort of the reflection there of where am I at if you're just starting out. So zero to six figures, it's I'm sorry, it's probably going to be doing your business because you caught up putting energy and you have to the more of the universe is energy and energy work, like you have to contribute to your business. And when you get past that six figures phase is when you get to start reassessing your business model. And guess what it gives me energy, because now you've got some variables, you can say, Okay, I've worked with this client and this client, and this client, or this one gave me energy.
But we're just starting out, you've got no variables, you can't think your way into that decision. You can't even feel relate to that decision, because your body's never experienced it. But you really have to work with some terrible clients to know who's a dream client. And again, to understand the energy of your clients. Another great exercise to get clients to do is do an avatar, and an anti avatar. And people always find the anti avatar really easy to do, like who is your nightmare of a client and just bust that one out?
It's a really good exercise to figure out what gives them text energy, and the client Rameau this distinction.
Emily: So good. Yeah, because I feel like with energy, it's, it's so hard to well, you can't really measure it's a feeling, right. And one of the things that I suppose is difficult is how to be conscious of it, how to kind of touch back and reflect on it. And one of the things that you guys do an untapped as well as like this idea of like wealth energetics, and it's like, how Yeah, like what what is wealth energetics? Like what how can you work on something that you can't quite measure?
Dalaney: And also starts I love level as well, like everything has certain levels. And Bear OH, that's an interesting story. I actually have I used to be in the social enterprise space quite a lot.
That's that was my that was my forte on sustainable products and social enterprises. And I also such that social entrepreneurs don't help the most. And the reason why that burns out the most is because they were playing at a higher level of energy and a habit actually integrated other levels of energy. And say, for example, you want to impact the world. That is so many environments before we can attack the will.
So the first level of leadership is leading yourself. You have to be able to beat yourself. So within understanding the energy concept and where to take your business as you have To be Novem throws this running around, but disciplines with like leaving yourself and what you want to do with the government why you want it.
And then the next level is leading one person, just one person, and then leading a group, and then leaving, say, your family and then a community, and then your city and then your country and then the world. And that to me is like, if you skip a level, you're gonna burn up, you're gonna be exhausted. And the same thing goes with say this wealth energetic spices people already have you made $1 Yet, in like, November, a movie or business is like, Alright, let's start with getting a dog. Let's start with getting Timberlands. $100. Because money is neutral.
Money is just energy money. Money is an expander. Right. And one of my favourite things, one of my favourite things about money to think about is money makes you more of who you already are. Where, if you're if you give a million dollars to an asshole, he's gonna become a big hassle, give a million dollars to a really nice person, you're gonna become a philanthropist, right? Like, money just creates more of who you are.
And how you expand your money consciousness is one particular really good exercise is called your financial thermostat. And that's understanding how much money you can actually hold. Now for me, I used to be, I used to very skilled at getting my checking account to $0 very skilled, I was so good at it, like literally the direct offer pay, or pay hit zero and I'm like, Ah, perfection. Also, as an entrepreneur, I've that I've done, I've hit zero so many times it is over the last like 10 years, it's frightening. And that's because I didn't understand this distinction of numbers and energy. And when I understood that money is an energy and I started rethinking about how I thought about money and the systems and processes I put around money they can change.
Because if you can start conditioning yourself to get a hold more money, the capacity, right? Like, say, for example, you've got $1,000 in your bank account, right now tricking your mind might start wandering by or I can get a new jacket, or maybe some new headphones I've ever got from nest dinner. Right?
That's, that's part of you, like sabotage, that's part of you not being able to hold the possibility and just be neutral about it. Like the basketballs is just there. I don't mean do anything with it. It's not risky. It's nothing, I just hold it. And once you can hold that level, then that kind of becomes your new zero. And then you go higher and higher and higher. We now $1,000 in my checking accounts when you zero 10 grand in my business account is that zero. And if it goes below that my nervous system acts like at zero now because I've conditioned myself to get a hold more money.
And the same thing goes. And the same thing can apply to charging your worth is it has to feel scary, right with all undercharged and gone Flack, why did I do that? But because you are people pleasing, or you're worried about their financial situation, whatever it might be, and then you don't show up silly. There's no energy behind it, which is actually a better example of money energies, if you and your child are overcharged.
One of my favourite things to think about if money is an energy as you buy a cheap pair of sunglasses, and you've actually learned you don't give a shit. But if you bought 1000s of designer glasses, they're going to live in the case, they're going to be cleaned twice a day, but you're going to look after that because there's more imaging behind it. So understanding your financial thermostat and changing that as one way to increase your energy, capacity holding money. And then pricing.
Pricing for me is very much an energetic skein and again, I love coming back to this word of kind of made me kind of sit on the edge, but it's critical. I'm a photographer and I'm about to shoot a wedding. Should I charge five grand and you've already got is too high. Okay, maybe I'm not energetically ready for There you go. Maybe so grant, you Margot's. Maybe, let's start there. That's why I'm your age. Yeah, that's right. And I literally do like kinesthetic.
So you feel rewarded, if you like, pick up and go up into red jazz. But that's, that's your number. And if you go down, that's low energy. That's bad. Don't do it.
Emily: Yeah, I think when you do under charge, and then you will know when you're under charging, because you feel resentment towards the project or towards the client. Because you're like you, it's not energetically balanced. You feel like you're giving a lot more than you are receiving perhaps energetically, as well. So I can tell when I start to feel a little bit of resentment. I'm okay. Next time. I will up that a little bit.
Dalaney: Yeah. And it's also on the receiving end of that energy, right? So for example, on the website, if you if you say hey, I help you with the website, I'm just over 100 bucks. Really appreciate that website. I think it's 100 because as your website…
Emily: Right, again, it's like the sunglasses example as well.
Dalaney: So something to consider is, the more people pay, the more they pay attention. And that works for you as well. Yeah. If someone's paying you an amount of money that's really on your edge, you're going to shut up and you're going to do your best work. And that destroy is then going to be your new portfolio. And so it's really important to try to work beyond your age and you did a clip.
Emily: Yeah. Because all also like to not charge your worth is actually a detriment to your clients as well, because then they don't show up. They don't take it seriously. And yeah, massively, and what I've invested in like, coaching and yeah, also for next year, like having joined untap mastery are like super excited, but also like super nervous as well, I There isn't, it's like outside my comfort zone, just a little bit. And but when you do that, you do pay attention. And you do. Put your that's where you're putting your energy, essentially.
Dalaney: Anytime people say something like that, I always think of eldest snow and get him to agree. And it's like, it goes on notice. And it just goes, it's good to feel something and I'm just like, yeah, so anytime, like, again, that comes in, it's like, see it as a good thing. See it as like, I'm alive. For goodness sake. Thank goodness, I'm not doing something, you know.
Emily: Exactly. No, I'm super, super, super excited. Okay, so like, then brand new on this theme of say, energy. I'd love to touch on this. This, I've been having a debate with a few people, male entrepreneurs, about feelings and intuition, and the role that they play in business, because I feel like a lot of females tend to be more feeling emotional, intuitive, and a lot of my male entrepreneur friends, they tend to be and make decisions from like, this makes sense. This is rational, this is logical. And anything that falls outside of that they don't think about feelings, they don't really, they're like, No, I don't have place for feelings. I don't make decisions from a place of feeling. I make them from a place of logical, rational, make sense kind of position. And I'd love to hear your thoughts on that as a male entrepreneur.
Dalaney: Two key points here. The first point, I'll answer the second question person, then I'll go look back. So firstly mean that next, not just meaning, as we think that we're making a decision from logic, but actually we're making it from the lowest level of emotion, because we're trying to mitigate and decrease risk as much as possible.
So really, we think like, oh, I'm making this decision purely out of logic, it's like, no, you're actually making the safest decision. That's why energy and coming back to that intuitive driver, and it's like, oh, shit, is this gonna put me on my ah, is this actually going to help me grow as a poet, and I'll speak more to that.
But the first point I really wanted to make is around intuition is that every single person has a different flavour of intuition, if you will, everyone's cue response for the intuition is very different. One of my favourite personality define this is called the his human design, and it's based off your birth time. And there's a beautiful distinction. And even if you don't even look at human design, and just look at how they talk about your inner authority, which is your intuition.
And if you just read the six different inner authorities, it's really interesting to understand how you intuition might be communicating with you. So for example, mine is auditory, and it's from my sepco. So whenever I'm listening to something, or I have an idea and verbally out loud, that is my intuition saying, that's a good idea. Right? And that's how mine to communicate screaming.
So Brian is my partner, Perez is very much like an impulsive, out loud verbal communication, like it's right. And it's out of move. It's completely out of them. Like, we can't have meetings to make decisions, like because it just we just have to wait, and then they'll come through, right. It's like, Hey, this is just like a fellow veteran feeling like a total stop dancing, you know, and that's how he knows that that's her intuition might be a good idea.
So I asked, you know, maybe one less thing to understand what your intuition sort of theories is, think about, like a really good decision you've made and a really good event that's happened in your life and sort of what what a bit feel like we're in your body was there that's kind of your first indicator, even if you could just close your eyes and think about like the time I got a promotion or I got an amazing client or delivered really good work or Ever My thing is like, Where was that? And then next time, and then also start paying attention to like my example of when I have a good idea. Like, what does that feel like? What? What do you have a verbal cue? Do your toe start wiggling? Like, what is your intuitions, right communicating with you? Because really, from a psychological perspective, our intuition is our subconscious.
Our subconscious is multiple times more powerful than our consciousness. One of my favourite examples is like the development of our prefrontal cortex, which is that conscious internal dialogue, you have, like a two minute or baby, two minutes in terms of evolutionary time from development, your unconscious, it's like a 30 year old.
So you mentioned how distracted and out of affair blah, blah, blah to mineral babies, its eyes, of course, for goodness sake, it's not even interacting with the world view. That's the theory. That's why like a logical decision, my fear and tell them, it's actually coming from bias, unfiltered information where your intuition has is consuming every word I'm saying right now, everything you've ever watched everything you've ever listened to every book you've ever read, everything your unconscious has stored that information, and it compiles and gathers it and verbally or physically tries to communicate with you saying, Yes, this is a good idea, we'll do that. So, and this is again, intuition and energy. As people ask me, What's my energy or my inner critic? How do I fix my intuition, or my inner critic, it says, Your intuition will give you energy, your ego will take energy.
So if you're like, I want to start my business, I want to do this, and it's energising and then your inner critic, guys are not a dumb idea. You know, that's taking energy away. When you have an idea in business of like, I mean, really brand make gives you energy, and your credit for growth are it's expensive, you shouldn't do it. Right. And it's just choosing what energy you want to play with. And know that your intuition is unique to you, that expresses itself in a unique way. And I'll give you energy…
Emily: Would you say then, intuition, like, if somebody is battling between, like, Should I go with my head, my logic, my intellectual level of consciousness versus my intuition, level of consciousness? Is there one, that is typically always right, or better than the other? Because in my case, I feel like every time I've gone with intellectual and kind of going against my instincts, or going against my intuition, I've always come to regret it. So for me, I like as much as possible, I will always go with intuition, because with intellectual, I personally find there is a bit of like, calculation like safe based, like it's, it's kind of based on like, a little bit based on fair like wanting to avoid that. Whereas intuition with with my intuition, sometimes I make nonsensical decisions, quite risky ones, and it pays off. So I don't know like, if you, if there is one that you would say, between if people had to choose between intellectual or intuitive, like, would you say intuitive is better? Like not one is better than the other, but like, you know, just curious what your thoughts are on that.
Dalaney: So to truly master this, and master, so these levels of energy and his levels of consciousness, between that intuition that intellect and actually doing it is a simple, like, covert or long story or anecdote, or whatever they call it, that's like, you should go to the top of a hill and meditate on what it is you want in the world, then you plan on the way down, and then you get to work, right?
And that's about how do I tap into my intuition and quieting my mind, close my eyes, by by closing your eyes is a really good way to tap into intuition because your eyes actually consumed so much of your brain's energy. Or if you close your eyes and limit that visual stimuli, you can really connect with your subconscious and intuition a lot more, which is a practical sense to meditation or closing your eyes, or going for a walk and slowing down your stimuli.
Yeah, and then, yeah, so you need all three, one of our favourite one liners that is ingrained with me as well as if I have an idea, which is my intuition. So I've got a download. And I can do it, which is my intellect saying, Yep, we've got the resources, we've got the skills, we've got the mindset, and then do it. So if you have an idea, and you can do it, do it, and it's kind of like a three tiered checklist, right? Like it's your intuition.
And you sought out the intellect which has occurred and you'd hire someone and need a mentor and a coach and the need to guide us toward a goal call us on ads, whatever it might be, and And then do and so you need all three, no one is better than the other, you need all three. And when you have all three, that's truly when when life slides, say a money example is we bought land back in New Zealand. And that was a 48 hour exercise from intuition to the opportunity presenting itself intellectually we could do it and we did it. And that's like, that was a that's my favourite example of those three working in the moment. Because we Yeah, yeah. Oh, three.
Emily: Yeah, amazing. And like, it kind of also feeds into this this triangle that we kind of talked about that you present? Yeah, actually, I learned this from you applying that to say if you're in a team, having like an entrepreneur, an integrator versus a creator. And each of those people kind of lean into more of one or the other, or they kind of all come together to really like to really make it happen and the vision happen, right? Yeah.
Dalaney: So to do so. But yeah, so to say these another way of intuition, intellect, and Turo is building a wholesome consciousness in the world, which is what you do, which will be an entrepreneur and operator and a creator, right?
Where the entrepreneur, so we're all afraid, just like those levels of consciousness, that one is stronger than the other. And it's really important to understand here because this is one of my biggest lessons of learnings and entrepreneurship is that solo entrepreneurship, solo entrepreneurship is a scam. It is a lie is lonely is bullshit.
Avoid entrepreneurship at all costs. And how do you do that is understand these three paradigms of which one you fall into? Which is the entrepreneur, the operator and the creator? Now the entrepreneur, they are the risk taker, they are they see opportunity everywhere. If you want to know if you're how high you are on the spectrum of entrepreneurship, as if someone offered to buy a business tomorrow, would you sell it? Yeah, and entrepreneurs quite logical, you know, they're quite intellectual. They're quite intuitive as well.
And they don't they get downloads, they see the vision, they seem to vision very much of what the world is and what the business would become. Acquire. They are like the managers, they will love the day to day I love the nitty gritty. They love making systems and processes and very intellectual. And these are Kenny, and hiring operator or CIO is how we go from six to seven figures, because we systematise Everything. And we talk about if you talk if you look at billionaires and multimillionaires, it's because that build systems.
My friend, though any software that was purely around the financial system, and he thought when he was selling the company, that they were buying his app, no buying his ticket, no, they were buying his operations on how he built it and his team management and its processes, right, your systems, your systems and your business is actually where your value is particularly for, you'd want to exit your business just as another side note, so and even Clarence can do this right now you can belong building systems and client management systems and how you do them through now you've added value to your whole industry that you could teach people how to build those systems or sell the business as a whole.
Yeah, then the other one is the Crayola, you just love to collect sacred clay and you just don't care about the bells. And you just want to do your craft and you just love it no matter what you're really customer centric, you love who you work with, and the people you're with. And and it's really important to understand which of these three you on because it shows pretty much your first hires you need to make.
So I have a lot of creatives that come to me, because I have a strong creator in me, so they can resonate. And then I've got more of an entrepreneurial mind. So I can really help them see the vision and the growth opportunity within their business in the industry. And then also, I had, I've hired a lot of people that have helped me grow my operating systems, and then I can give those to other people.
So it's about understanding which one of you are on a spectrum. You're not this one the other we're all spectrums, you know, everyone's a spectrum. So you kind of just think about oh, yeah, maybe like 30%, entrepreneur, 0% operator, 90%, creative, you know, whatever it might be. Yeah. Think about how do I need help?
Emily: Hmm. And then why do you think because I feel like a lot of small businesses, especially those who are like, yeah, creatives, and they start freelancing, and then they start to build their own small business. There is this kind of like there's a almost like a pride to it, of wearing all the hats and doing all the things and and it's like, why do so many people feel like they have to do it alone. This kind of solo entrepreneurship is Yeah, it's like there's almost like a lot of people are proud to be doing a lot and to have made it to say six figures all on But I don't think that's sustainable. And it's not sustainable if you want to grow. Yeah, but like, why would you say also? Sorry, before you answer, like, would you say it applies to mostly small businesses? Or do you also see that in like bigger businesses, bigger entrepreneurs?
Dalaney: Big entrepreneurs as well. And this is why it all comes down to your mindset and you as the founder and knowing myself, right, and one thing, in particular for myself is, I was that entrepreneur first, where I didn't really have a concrete product or skill set ever, in my journey, I was always that I prided myself on being a jack of all trades, you know, and, and I realised like, a lot more work is there was actually fear of meeting others, because in my childhood, you know, would have let down by an adult at some point in time, it doesn't need to be a story behind it doesn't need to be like, a month ago to pick me up from school, which you did all the time.
But that's so great. That's around like this, some sort of trauma or small team effectively, around a lot of that driving force of needing to prove something to someone. And I need to prove that I can do it on my own. And I find it so confusing, rarely look out to the media, that we idolise entrepreneurs individually, that Elon Musk has 1000s of staff members, Jeff Bezos, millions of staff members, talk to creators that even about tech, we've got a creative team, you know, that help us make content and pump it out, right? And you look at us and Brian and slay this team, like, so.
That's why like, Fuck sell entrepreneurship, it's a trap. It's it's purely based on ego and fear of I need to prove something and I need to heal something. Entrepreneurship, in my eyes is the number one gateway to accelerate your healing. Because to create the full expression of who you are, because you've learned, and you have to deal with so many lessons, you have to show your money shut out, you know, you have to learn how to communicate effectively, you have to ask and receive, you have to ask for help, you have to get help and receive help. There's so many layers of the of the solid reviewer that gets rabid about your business. I completely forgot the question.
Emily: No, no, no, no, you're getting that. I mean, a follow up question to that is like for people who are like, I'm really tired, I'm exhausted doing everything on my own, they know they need to start hiring a team, otherwise, their business is going to crash and they're going to crash. But they're perhaps not in a financial position. To hire out. It's kind of like what comes first the chicken or the egg, you know, the money to pay for a new team member or the team member who then helps you make more money. And then so you can get the cash flow going, you know, it's like what comes first for someone who's in that kind of dilemma, and they don't have the financial cash right now to bring someone on? What What would you suggest? What would your advice be?
Dalaney: Gee, thanks. So firstly is getting as firstly, as in order to get to where we want to go, we have to be radically honest and radical responsibility about where we are. And what that means is really periodically responsible. How am I spending my time? What am I doing when I what am I prioritising?
So I implore you to do a reflection where you write down every single thing you do in your business day to day from replying to emails, to setting stuff up to doing sales calls to marketing, whatever it is, and start putting financial values or time on that do time and money, because those are, you know, our most precious resources.
And you might find that, holy shit, I'm actually worth $150 an hour. And I'm wasting so much time scheduling my content where I could pay someone on Fiverr to do it for me, you know? Yeah. And that's where it really begins is you don't have to hire someone full time. Like after the first hire was probably $1,000 per month. And she just popped out content like not like nothing else. And what would that do that freed up so much more time for us to prioritise on revenue generating activities and actually work on the business, not in the business?
This is a big thing as far as people take the free and I think that entrepreneurs are actually just built their own trouble. Yeah, right. Yeah. And one thing one thing to break free from is how can I leverage and how can I compound my energy and effort? What are my favourite things is Think once use often, and that distinction is about how do I get out of the doing it? How do I I think build systems and processes and hire people to be do their systems and processes in a repeatable fashion.
So, even for for a solo entrepreneur who's maybe starting to, like, get to this burnout level where there's so many things going on so many typical things to manage is, right now, whatever you do in your business, if it takes more than two sticks, make an SOP for like a process for just two if it takes more than two states. So even if it's like sending an email, it's like, okay, we open Gmail, we make sure the footer is an email, and it's branded, we open with like, you know, a pleasant treat whatever it might be, and really start building out systems. And it's about levelling up as an entrepreneur. I'm done getting paid for what I do. And now I'm ready to get paid for what I know.
Emily: And that is about getting to that next level of business. Yeah, and I, honestly, one of the biggest things I regret is not having started earlier with systematising, my business creating proper SOPs, because I'm like I was, so in the mindset of, I'm doing everything anyway. So it's all in my head anyway. So what's the point and spending five times extra time to document this. And now I'm like, You know what, I've done this so many times, that would have actually made sense to have just created an SOP. And there were actually so many areas of my business where I thought, I have to do this. But when I really wrote out the entire list, I could outsource 80% Of all the things on my list. And I'm like, Oh, my goodness.
Dalaney: So something is now coming back to this notion of because you suck at it, right? The fear this because you suck at it, because you've never done it before, we would rather solve the same problems we know again, and again and again and beginning to face the possibility of a new problem.
So remember, happy keep working and doing and doing and doing our business on repeat, because it's less scary instead of a bigger problem of firing someone you know, for example of of the potential money risk of having to pay for someone you know, like, because we've solved that problem that's in front of us again, and again and again. And again. That is so my question.
My question, Naveen, is choose your problems. So rather than solving your problem right now, which might be like I currently have systemize my business, you might want to do that. Because you don't know the next problem that you're fearful of that you're not a no, not. Yes. So what I like to get people to do is like clinical, what is your next problem? Like, say, for example, people not building a sales page, for example? Like why have you built sales pages he was waiting for people just magically know what you do? Is that right?
That is a problem. If you've got a sales page, and I probably have to talk to people on like sales. Is that right? Perfect. That's an explosive game. And what you'll find is, when you sit that problem, that next problem, your subconscious, and everything starts focusing on there, and all of a sudden, you're in sales coming up in the park, because you figured out the next problem. So just playing wants to be hidden Your Problem wants to be hidden your comments can really help with this distinction as well. What's the problem after the problem?
Emily: Yeah, I love that. That's so true. That's such a go just go back to the onboarding example, like hiring a team, it's like, then you have to think about contracts. And you have to think about this. And then you have to create this and all the things and yes, it is quite daunting. And to be honest, I think if it wasn't for the business coaches and mentors that I've had, since I started my business, I think I would be perpetually in the cycle of like, solopreneur doing everything myself, because it is quite scary. To, to kind of, yeah, do that on your own.
And I think what gave me a lot of confidence, what gave me a lot of like, support was actually people who have already done that, who have been there who have solved that problem. And they're like, it's okay, we'll help you get to the other side. Like, this is what you need to do. Like, the next step. Is this. The next step is this. And I think for me, yeah, one of the one of the reasons why my business has been able to grow and be sustainable.
So until they'll still grow is having coaches and investing in my growth and investing in mentors. So, yeah, I think, do you think that a lot of small business owners then I feel like there's a hesitation towards hiring coaches sometimes or working with coaches as well. And especially, I would say from my male counsel Part I feel like I, I don't know how you feel about it like in your world of coaching, do you have more female clients or male clients? Is there like?
Dalaney: It's 99% - Woman?
Emily: No. Okay, I'm so curious. And is that because like females are more okay to like, say, hey, I need support and to go and get after it, or why that disparity?
Dalaney: There's so many variables. But yeah, that's exactly I think, I think women and the feminine energy in the world is outpacing men, throw them through women are so lost in the world right now.
Because it's just, it's what we're programmed to do this where, where men are men accused stimulus response creatures more than women. Men are racing to be commanded anyway, even if we think we're not really like, we just want to race want to be needed, because we're not maybe, maybe realise that, like, we are like droning bass to the Queen, right? Like, the human population can go on, even if there's only one of us left. So we really need purpose.
And we have to create our purpose. Woman, that feminine energy, you've got a purpose, you literally create life on this fucking planet, right? That is your purpose, as well as birthing other creations and creating change, we mean is just like, is that purpose, we can actually, we have to create one.
So the reason why I mean disconnected from getting how to disconnect from work, because I don't know the road. There's no good examples for the mountain of what they actually want. And because they don't have a route, they struggle with it. The other thing that stops the masculine energy from getting support is our minds work in linear time. The feminine energy is cyclical, you understand that life is a cycle, you understand that next year is going to come back that the next season is going to come back.
And you know that if you don't improve your situation, you're going to be in the exact same place again, right, you understand the cycles of nature to tell a feeling and energy works with a masculine energy, there's some part of us that refuses to accept time, we refuse to accept time, we believe that life is gonna go on forever until the day we die.
So men, we have to really cultivate that urgency within us. And that is why when you getting a coach and a mentor, once you understand that time is really precious, and you need to get him quickly generate that urgency and you you can accelerate.
Alright, favourite things to think about is that reading and action on everything, and a good book was 75 years. Reading, working with an action and everything a mentor does will save you 50 years. Because with a book, that's generally what worked in the past, but with a mentor, you get what worked in the past, the present and the future, because you borrow their vision, you borrow what they're reading for them right now. And we borrow it all to them in the past, and actually mind blowing exciting, your journey.
Every single massive leap and down Metamora financially, relationships with my partner with my friends with business, everyone has all been once a part of me too, because you're now playing a game you've got stakes, you there's time pressure, as well as a coaching container, like 10 weeks or a year or whatever. It's like, masculine energy now has a component of time. And yeah, maybe stop and ask them to help as well wrap it up.
Emily: Yeah, yeah. I would say absolutely. Like, also, just for me, both personally and in business, like, every time I have actually gone to seek out a mentor for any particular part. It's, that's always been when I've experienced, like, exponential growth. And it's been incredible. And I think a lot of people are so hesitant to invest in a coach or a mentor, because they think, Oh, what if I invest all this money and, and it doesn't work out or something like that.
And I would say like, when you do like, choose very wisely, your mentors because they will really dictate, like, your next steps and your future and, but, but it's just been so like, it's it's even just indescribable for me the expansiveness of hiring or having coaches feeling that support and yeah, just having like also people who are of that same mindset and and passing that down to you and just being so supported by my thoughts is the most Yeah, it's incredible. So love that you say things on investing money, right is like firstly seeing yourself as an asset.
Dalaney: We are with me Trouble that goes on in the world, right? Like, say, for example, you're in Ukraine, and you've got a house and you've got like a girl, or you've got some Bitcoin or ledger, or whatever it is, and you have to up and leave in a moment and you leave all that behind, you've now got more assets.
But if you have invested everything when you're in business, new tools and money and coaching and all that, that goes with you anywhere you go. People wonder, like set up, Donald Trump is a famous example of a multi billionaire gone to zero going to nothing.
Think about how did he build himself back up again, because he's invested millions of dollars to his back. So I don't like Donald Trump, but I support Donald Trump is a sixth app that came to my mind. But it's more than that. The s&p 500 is the best that you can invest in, because no matter where you go, who you are, and take it with you, and you just compound your skill sets.
Like say, for example, you didn't miss it early on when I was starting out as a coach, really five years ago, and we stood 10 grand in a programme. Right. And that was a, that was a lot of money for me at the time. But that year is when I had my first six figures, right? So I got a teeny X return on that team grand where I could have just gotten all this, you know, put it in an index fund or I was buying an iPhone or some shit.
Yeah, right now we're down 30%, an iPhone would be obsolete. And so it's really getting that you are an asset. And when you increase your skill set, your value will increase and you'll be able to charge more and we are being bought and you will have a big ally lot. It's just like, it's one of those things.
Emily: Yeah, massively. I mean, even I was thinking like the other day, like I've, like, say you were to invest 10 grand, you could have bought, I don't know, a watch, or expensive handbag or a car or something like that. But instead of putting it there, you could invest that back into yourself into your business, and make 10 times more than next year or something. And so it's kind of like just Where are you putting your money?
Yeah, that was a really good example. I was actually talking to someone the other day, and he said, he owns multiple companies and whatnot. And he said, If I was to lose everything, like just because of the war, or if something was to happen, if he was to lose everything is no, no fair that he can absolutely build all of that backup. Okay. And that is just a brilliant mindset. I think as well. That's just the confidence you have in yourself and your knowledge that you've got.
Dalaney: But the biggest one a breakthrough here, as well as it's not about investing in information. That's like level one is knowledge. That's like really books, listening to podcasts, all that stuff. That's level one information. I found like, Brian and I had a distinction we're not in St. We tell people your mentor masturbating, because you just learn learn, learn, learn, learn, learn, learn, learn, learn.
But I found myself, even myself, I'm addicted to learning, right? And what's really the biggest breakthrough you can take is turning that information into transformation, and actually taking action. And that's where like giving coaches mainly for the accountability and saying, Do this, and then you do it. And then they give you feedback.
And then they say, like, here's your next problem, we are trying to tackle that problem. And, and that's really about build, that's how you build that massive momentum, rather than just mentally masturbating and listening to podcasts. I remember, like when I was 19, listening to podcasts about like leaving teams, and I was just starting League teams. Now as a teenager, his latest articles are wasting my time learning on that.
So it's like, just in time learning, not just in case. And the best just in time learning is hiring someone or following someone religiously. Whether you know, sometimes the Ramones, Alex, Matthew, right now, I don't know, religiously. And just before you consume any more, any more of the content, everything, as you're listening to this podcast, if you've got this email, they were very beginning and stop every time I get exercise to do and do it. The other thing, keep some things that have a title so that when your energy's following, you know, yeah, turn that information into transformation. That's truly how you accelerate.
Emily: Yeah, yeah, like really integrating what it is that you've actually learned. And not just continuously storing things and not doing anything with it. Because then what's Yeah, yeah.
Dalaney: So how that works, right? Essentially, I've said something, you try it on your shopping. So there's many things we've talked about here. And it could be something you'd like something you don't like. So cabbage, your intuition, your interest rate. That's a good idea. So you put the jacket on. Now you do the thing, which is dropping into that. I've taught you how to do it, which is the intellect and then you go to the workforce, and you do it, right. Yeah. All three. So there's so many things you learn as well. Irrelevant. So pay attention that intuition and intuition goes, Oh, that's a good idea to do that.
Emily: I would also say like Just following on have, you know, like information. And then even like the next step up from that, it's kind of like, how you solve problems as well. And like also different tiers that there's like, the beliefs, and how you solve problems. And that is also like, really something that you can't be taught. It's almost a you learn through experience, how to solve problems, or how to go around something. And I think that's also equally important. It's like things that you can expect from externally input. And then there are things where, through doing through integrating, you experience it, and then you learn more, and then that stays with you. And that is…
Dalaney: Because, because no matter where you go, they you are, yeah. And what am I my favourite skits from? SNL was like Adam Sandler's, right, and he's like, he's talking about, like, travelling to Italy. And he's like, if you and you get on a pilot, and you can't, really, you're gonna be the same person. So if you're sat at home, you're gonna be sad in Italy.
And the same thing applies to like business, right? And life is that this big bullshit excuse that we all carry around is if x then why not got the money, we all do it, when I've got more time, I'll do it. But you want, because you're going to be the same person. What I mean by that is that that inner critic, those fears, those doubts, that third race, being there, I still walk around with my beliefs that I'm not smart enough, I still do.
Carnegie said, people don't like me, right? But I'm learning to manage them, you just deal with them, you got like a notification on your family are swept off. And we move through the resistance. So it's really important to understand that that resistance at every level was everybody's media. And it's about just moving through and embracing it.
And eventually you get to a level of life of income business, or whatever it is, and you feel comfortable, you gotta say, this is my level. And it's, it's confidence, confidence, dangerous, you know, you're gonna, we're not growing, we're dying, I kind of leave so you got to strive.
Emily: And it is, it is like, I'm also in a phase of my life where I'm like, being stretched outside of my comfort zone. And I feel it and my ego has been tested quite a few times, and, and I'm feeling stretched and not comfortable. But at the same time, I realised that this is exactly what I need, in this phase of my life, to grow and to be the next. Next better version of myself and also for my business. So yeah, good thought to end on. This has been a great conversation for anyone who's interested in kind of exploring the world of like, say coaching or business coaching and up levelling their, their mindset, their their business game as well, where can people find more resources? Or how can people work with either you or or on top? And what are some things coming up, as well…
Dalaney: As just go on Tempstar in Zed, and look at our upcoming workshops, we always have a workshop coming up, they're usually quite specific around money, relationships, sales, mindset, a lot of those things because we believe in the holistic entrepreneur.
And this is another thing to think about as you might be struggling with business, but actually look at all areas of your life, from your finances, to your relationships, your mental health, your physical health, because what you'll find right is you might be like, Oh, my business isn't growing. It's like, oh, because I've got no energy and I need to exercise my dad's ship.
So if you can start thinking about holistically life as well, you can expand and grow which was, his ethos is that on tap is we believe in holistic entrepreneurship, and holistic leaders and how we can make more leaders to come to our upcoming reps. And we've got the address of coming up which sell live to a like bread and butter, like not willing to ship really get unstuck get clear and get clear on your next problems after the problems if you will really move through.
And then I'll creamed on the feminism tech mastery, which is a year long container, which is all about that holistic mastery of all areas of life. So you can go as an entrepreneur and a leader. Yeah.
Emily: So exciting. And that's, that's, that's like starting next year now. It's like people can start signing up for that now. It sort of starts next year. Yeah,
Dalaney: Yeah, mastery, mastery, you can join anytime. So it's completely open. We have three trainings across the year. So we start with business and leadership and new health and wealth and relationships and communication. So you can join you know, in April and you want to help them out and then you got to lesson and then you got to business leadership in 2024. We're ready A personal like, we want it to be an intuitive I felt when you join when you know you're running and you're we've got the community, we're waiting for your support emigrating for you from all these areas of business life and leadership.
Emily: Who would you say mastery is for? Like, would it be for someone who's just starting out there in the first year was a more for people who are like, they've hit a stagnation point. They're doing everything on their own, and they're ready to like, grow a team.
Dalaney: It's that second one, right, where you've, you've started, you've started to feel like, okay, this is working, or it should, is this a fluke? Like I'm alone, I'm so tired of being alone. And just working at my dining table alone working away. And I really want a community around me, I realised also the next levels, and I really want to get the edge on how I'm going to succeed, because that's really what we're about is that new stuff, get the edge really excel and grow quickly, like don't take 10 years stay at one, you know, yeah, the compound.
Emily: I love that. Amazing. Yeah, I'm so excited for that. Um, Dalaney, thank you so much for joining me on this podcast. I just want to end with one last personal question, actually. What does a free world and soulful life mean? Oh look like you.
Dalaney: I believe we're on the cusp of a social evolution. And I believe a free and just world looks like one where people are more free expressed. And people are really tapped in to what it is they're uniquely here to do. We've all got a unique gift, we're very unique something to give to the world. And when we can mirror mirror, sorry, marriage, that gap between what we're exceptional at and what the world needs. That's really, really quick freedom of the film.
Emily: I love that. Beautiful. Ah, that's such a beautiful way to end this. Thank you so much for joining us. So I hope you enjoyed that interview with Dalaney. I certainly really enjoyed interviewing him. And after we stopped recording, actually, he mentioned something that I think is worth sharing this idea of persistence.
And one of the biggest factors that distinguishes those between like those people who end up succeeding, and those who don't, is persistence. You know, when you get knocked down when you an idea of yours doesn't work out. Maybe you think it failed. You know, it's like, can you still get yourself back up and try again and be relentless in pursuit of your goal and in the pursuit of your why. And I think, yeah, that's just last piece of advice or wisdom I wanted to leave you with. I so appreciate your airtime and all the feedback that I've gotten on these guest episodes.
And yeah, I'd love to hear from you like what resonated with you most from our conversation with Dalaney today, please do send me a DM at on Instagram at Emily Peilan. And let's continue the conversation over there. Stay wild stay adventures and have a beautiful day my friends.
