#20: The 8 Steps To Overcoming Loneliness As A Digital Nomad
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We are social creatures by nature. Even if digital nomading is the lifestyle you’ve chosen for yourself, it doesn’t mean you’re committing to a life of loneliness. In this episode, I reflect on the years I have spent traveling solo, and on the difference between being alone and feeling lonely.
I share the eight steps that I would recommend to those seeking community along their travels. These tips have helped me to meet incredible lifelong friends, and number six is even how I met my current partner!
From language classes to co-working spaces, I have learnt when to put the ego aside and learn what and who gives me energy. After all, I find the best places to be are often those with the most open and kind people anyway.
“It doesn't interest me where or what or with whom you have studied. I want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls away. I want to know if you can be alone with yourself. And if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments.”
—The Invitation, Oriah Mountain Dreamer
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Episode Transcript
There are going to be times where you feel so lonely that you question this decision to have chosen this lifestyle at all. And you ask yourself, was this worth it?
Hello, my beautiful friends and welcome back to another episode. I am currently recording this episode a little bit ahead of time, but I am in the beautiful island of Malta. And it's sunny here.
I'm sitting in a beautiful Airbnb, super cosy and just a lot of artwork, a lot of personal personal touches, and pictures, film photos, and paintings and photography.
Everything's quite vintage. And then you pair it up with this beautiful balcony terrace. With with the table outside mirror like that. We've got the river just in front of me.
It's currently what is it 3pm. And the sun is slowly setting already. It's everything's golden. The boats, the sailboats to catamarans they all have this beautiful soft glow about them. And I see this old town, this I think it's about Esther, I'm not quite sure. But this beautiful village in front of me and it's so ancient. And I have to say I really like Malta, I'm currently based in sliema.
It feels to me a little bit like Greek island meets Lisbon. There's quite a few digital nomads here, like entrepreneurs, people in the crypto space and, and yeah, a mix of young people in middle age, I would say the demographic in Lisbon is a lot younger here. It's like, older demographic of people, perhaps, but still slow lifestyle. Lots of great cafes, I love working from the cafes is if you follow me, you know that I'm always in search of the best flat whites, no matter where I go.
And, and yeah, I just feel really grateful to be here, and to be recording from the space I recently had. So I got to Malta to two days ago. And depending on when you're listening to this, maybe irrelevant. But I spent the last two weeks. Really sad, actually. And that's kind of what spurred on the topic of this episode is loneliness as a digital nomad, and it's a very real thing.
We are social creatures. And I think there comes a time when you question your life decisions. And so to paint a picture of kind of why I was really sad. I'm used to digital nomadic, I'm used to solo travelling, I pride myself on being independent and being more enjoying my own company. I really don't. I don't, I can be by myself, and I'm totally fine with it.
I was about to say I don't need anyone. But that's not true. We all need people don't we? So I'm totally okay, on my own. I've done a lot of solo trips by myself. But something that I realised is even when you're doing a solo trip, you tend to meet people. So back in the day when I was hitchhiking, or using blah, blah car like carpooling app, or I was staying in hostels, or couch surfing, I was always meeting people, and having conversations with people.
And so I think that I underestimated how enriching and how important that was, as part of my my solo travel experience, and recently, during the last two weeks when I was initially, I was with a friend of mine in Florence. And after Florence, I basically went off on my own and quote unquote, like really solo travel then to poorly so like barre area, or Stoney, and there are quite like smaller towns, smaller villages. I didn't know anybody there and I was also I had a lot of client work.
So I was basically I rented an Airbnb by myself for myself, and I just borrowed threw myself in a cave myself in and just worked day and night all day. And with the odd walk here and there. And day by day, I just felt my mental state get worse and worse. And I felt so sad. And maybe it was the change in weather as well, I think the clock turned back and it was sort of dark by five o'clock.
I just felt like I was wasting my days away. And I was incredibly, incredibly sad. I missed my friends in Lisbon. And I was like, why am I here? You know, like, why am I here? And not back in Lisbon with my friends? And truth is, maybe you asked me like, why couldn't you just go back to Lisbon? And I very well could have, and I very seriously considered it.
But there were a few factors why I chose to stay. One of them was my my partner, Tim he? Well, we had plans to meet in Bahrain. And then that plan got extended because of a few delays to Malta, which is why we're here now. And I was searching up the flights, and from Italy, back to Lisbon would have been around 200 300 euros. And I knew that I'd have to come back in two weeks.
Anyway. And so it just didn't really make sense in my head, environmentally, but also like financially to just, you know, do that. And I was like, Ah, so I looked for other ways. And as fate would have it, the best option was actually to come to Malta.
So I decided to come to Malta, but it meant I had to camp out there for another week. So all in all, it was like two weeks, by myself. And, and by the end of it. My by the end of it actually what was really interesting was I just I needed connection again.
And the thing that fueled my negativity, I was in such a dark place of, of like, self doubt, self pity, and just really being so hard on myself. And for those of you who know me, you might think, you know, I'm genuinely quite a bubbly positive person, and I am but for those two weeks, I was absolutely not I was the opposite. And, and I don't like being in that place, either. I think nobody does, it feels like a storm has just come over and just ripped you apart.
But the bright side of that is that I learned a lot really those two weeks, I'm actually on Bing. Now on the other side, I'm really grateful for that. Because it was a period of like deep self reflection.
I journaled a lot on my insecurities and why I was feeling this way. And I emerged on the other side feeling just 10 times stronger, having bad, that terrible storm, that dark dark storm, and, and I feel proud of myself that I would I withstood it.
And also so one of the important lessons I learned was that when you are feeling down and say you are a people person, and you need people around you and you need connection, go and give it to yourself. I think I was stuck in this.
This idea of like Emily, you can solo travel, you should be fine. You are independent. And my ego was really getting in the way of like me just giving myself what I needed at the point which was just meet new people and have interesting, nourishing conversations. And so for the last three nights, or was it two nights in Bahrain, I actually switched from an air b&b to a hostel.
The irony of you know, back in the day when I was in hostels, I would dream of just having enough money to rent out a beautiful Airbnb and not have to be in hostels anymore. And the irony of like, now, being able to afford an Airbnb and actually feeling really sad and lonely by myself in an in a massive, you know, nice Airbnb with a beautiful bed. I'm like, actually, no, I want to go back to a hostel.
I do find that quite, quite funny. But that was the best decision I could have made. And I'm so glad I ended on that note, because from the second I got to the hospital, I was meeting people like really kind, beautiful, open minded travellers.
And it just reminded me of like, what makes travelling so special and so enriching, it's, it's the people it's the stories we come away with. It's the connection. And, and yeah, it just reminded me of What was important to me again, so I'm really grateful for that.
And now I'm able to come full circle.
And just touching on this idea of like, there will always be periods where you feel lonely as a digital nomad. In life in general, whether whether or not you're a digital nomad, and especially if you are a digital nomad, and you travel a lot, and you're constantly leaving your groups or your communities behind this episode, this has been a long intro, but this episode, I really want to touch on a few tips and a few things that I do to help me feel less lonely.
So in this episode, we are going to start off by diving a little bit into this, the difference between being alone and feeling lonely. And then I'm going to also share some tips for say, solo travelling and tackling loneliness, I've got seven tips or things that I that I can recommend. And then lastly, the difference between having a base versus continuously slow matting around and how to decide which is the better fit for you and your work and your lifestyle.
So let's get into it. I think being alone is important. And I think it's important to feel comfortable on your own, by yourself, without needing, per se other people constantly around you. However, you can be alone and not feel lonely.
Because you have beautiful people that you love and who love you in your life and you feel grounded and confident and secure in that.
On the other hand, you can be surrounded by people, people who love you, perhaps friends, even, but you feel incredibly lonely, because you feel like nobody understands you.
The things that you want, they're different from theirs, and you share sometimes perhaps your heart, your desires, and you feel like nobody quite gets you or nobody supports your vision. Nobody supports your dream. And that I've been there. I know how it feels. And I think there's nothing more sad than being surrounded by people who you love, but who you feel lonely when you're around them.
So, I truly think that especially if you are deciding for yourself to choose a more unconventional lifestyle, like slow madding digital, no madding around and, you know, doing life off the beaten path, that you surround yourself with people who are also choosing this lifestyle who understand the toll that it takes, and the difficulties and the challenges of, of this lifestyle.
So for me, one of those incredible things, was moving to Lisbon and finding a community of people who share similar values share similar dreams, and are all they're supporting each other on, you know, somebody wants to do this done, cool. You are this person in my eyes. And there's something so expansive, and so soul nourishing about finding your tribe of people like that.
So if you currently feel like you don't have that, don't stop until you find that and maybe that's the noseband maybe that's somewhere else. There are so many amazing digital nomad hubs now across the world, and also online communities as well. But there is nothing that can replace physical community.
That's yeah, from my experiences is the most amazing thing. So that is my my take on aloneness and more feeling lonely versus being alone.
Another question I often get from pupil. It's this idea of like, why do you feel like you have to keep moving? Why not just settle? Why not just be in one place, choose one place and then choose your pupil? Why do you feel like you have to keep moving?
And that is a really good question because a lot of people who say choose a normal conventional life and they like to be settled on the plane is perhaps they don't quite understand where we're coming from. We, it's not that we're escaping anything, at least not for me, I can only speak from my experience.
I'm not escaping. I'm also not leaving because the place that I'm in wasn't good enough. I just happened to be somebody who I need variety in my life. I like to have different groups of people to have different projects, going at one time to have different landscapes around me in a year to change my space. And even on a day to day basis.
I can't work just from home, I cannot work in one place. If Yeah, like, ever see what I'm like, when I'm travelling, and I'm working, I will Cafe hub, because I physically need to move myself from place to place because different places give me different energy and I'm able to tap into a mood, different frequency different energy, I don't know. But it just kind of gets the ball rolling. Really refuse me.
And so that's the same for when it comes to moving to different places. It's not like, I could say, yeah, maybe I need the change, it really stimulates me, it keeps life interesting. And it also keeps me grounded in a way and grateful. Because when your time is limited in a place, and your time with people is limited, you I find I actually tend to go a lot deeper, and appreciate it a lot more and actually see more places.
So yeah, that is something I wanted to touch on. However, over time, like, what, especially when it becomes a lifestyle, it can feel like a burden. Maybe if you're travelling with a partner, or with friends, it's less so because you you kind of have this like community still with you.
But if you are doing this lifestyle solo, and you're moving frequently by yourself, yes, it does tend to feel lonely at some point, despite meeting incredible people along the way. And I was doing this live for a really long time. I think one of the things that drew me to Lisbon and what made me like, now base myself in Lisbon, was that, yeah, it did get lonely at some point. And I wanted to have some longer term people, community in my life.
So yeah, at some point, I suppose. fleeting encounters in borrowed spaces, they just start to feel a little bit empty without the richness of people in its, I mean, mind you. Yeah, perhaps for some people. You keep moving because you haven't found that special place yet. And for me, there were quite a few places that I could have actually seen myself settling in. But I decided to keep moving. Because in my heart, I felt like we hadn't quite found it. Yet that special place with the special people that made us feel like we're at, we're at home.
But once you have it once you have it, you'd know it. But I think also once you lose it, you really know for sure that was special. And that was the perfect place to call home base. Now that was I would say the case for me when I arrived in Lisbon. I was like, Oh, this is so special. This I love it. It really feels like home. And I made it home for six months.
And then as winter came around and I recently met my partner Tim we Yeah, I didn't know just kind of this, this flirted with the idea of digital nomad thing again and leaving for the winter and exploring some more places with him together. And so I decided to rent out my room and be nomadic again, which is had its ups and downs. I suppose the biggest down that I felt so far is just really this deep longing and missing for my friends and the community I have in Lisbon, even though actually I have to say a lot of people are also leaving Lisbon for the winter.
They go off to warmer warmer places southern hemisphere, Southeast Asia Valley all the places and they generally tend to come back around like February or March anyway. So even if I was to go back there would be a small group of people. However, I have However, leaving made me realise how much I miss it, how much I miss the people, and how important they are to me.
And yeah, so sometimes it takes losing something to realise how important that is for you, even though it's still my home base, I still intend to go back very soon. I just don't happen to have a date for that just yet. So, here are my tips for solo travelling and tackling loneliness. Number one, this is more of a lifestyle. But the term slow mod I first came across this when I was when I first moved to Lisbon, actually.
And there is a group of people who call themselves not just digital nomads, but slow Mads because they loved Lisbon so much, they decided to stay. And they are in Lisbon for basically I'd say, like six months of the year or most of the year round, but they'll do small trips from there. Or they'll leave for two, three months of a winter and come back and maybe in between during summer, they'll go somewhere else, but they have their base in Lisbon, or they move around very slowly this year, they still says that either you have a base somewhere, and you do longer trips away, or you keep moving to different places, but you stay for like three, four months or longer in one place before you move your life. Okay.
And the rest of the tips that I've got, so I've got seven in total, that was number one, the rest of the six, following basically the idea is like to integrate yourself and be a part of the community, whether it's your local or your expat Nomad community. And so the following are different communities to be a part of. So number two, co working space is amazing. If your work can pay for it, I would always like reach out to your boss if you're employed, and ask if you can pay for your co working space.
And it's a business expense for them. So they can make a tax deductible. Make sure you say that. And and then you get the benefit of being in a co working space. And if your business has the cash flow to, to hook yourself up with a co working space, that's also a business expense that's tax deductible. So go to a co working space, or co working cafes. There are lots around in Lisbon.
However, co working space, it's nice because then you have you know, familiar people around all the time and you've got your own dedicated space. So yeah, I've done co working spaces, and I can highly recommend them. I love also Yeah, just after a while, depending on the community of the co working space, I was really lucky to have been a part of Luna house in cash guys.
That's kind of like a co living co workspace. And after some time, we really felt like a family. We would go out for dinners together. We go to digital nomad events together. And yeah, it's just a really beautiful time. So that's a really beautiful place to find your community as well. So number three events and meetups. There is yeah, this is app.
So if you're based in Lisbon, and I think this app works for other places as well. It's called meet ups, M E T. Ups. It's a red coloured app. Basically, it shows events and groups in a particular area or city. And you can join them for free or there are some that like have an entry cost, but the app is free to use.
And it's free to like search for the groups that you want to be a part of, for example, in Lisbon, one of the biggest groups there it's called Lisbon digital nomads, and every single day of every single week, they have an event on Mondays they've got important, so important, thought provoking talks from a guest speaker. They've also got like running the kind of like group running, they've got co working Wednesdays they have every Thursday they've got a massive Lisbon digital nomad meetup where it's always in a different location. It's like cool rooftop bars.
Or you know, this is somewhere like really quite trendy and you get to discover new places yourself. If you're new to the city, and you meet a whole bunch of cool digital nomads, a mix of mostly expats but some local people who are there to also just meet interesting people and the age ranges from my 20s to 40s. as well.
So really all sorts of people, they're really cool. Some of the other events you can find would be like if you're into crypto there are like quite a few crypto groups and crypto scenes and they do events and meetups and talks. What else there are people who are into surfing maybe like freediving or spearfishing. There are people who are into arts and music, you can find groups who meet up and go painting or create ceramics together.
There's, I'm sure like salsa groups, and there's so much out there. So. And also another massive one, especially for Lisbon is dinners like they love their dinner parties. And it's this is so I really love these dinner parties in Lisbon, because the venues are always so special.
And the people are always quite special. And there are quite a few different groups who host dinners and sometimes with like live music or like Fido, which is a traditional Portuguese style of music. And yeah, you kind of just pay for a small fee, and you go and you meet new people over dinner. And it's just like a small, intimate, beautiful thing. There are so many things like that. It's just so beautiful. I miss it. And I can't wait to go back and join in on more of those. So yes, I will I could go on for that forever. The 123.
Fourth one is joining language classes or like a language to finding like a language tandem partner. So there will also be, for example, if I wanted to learn Portuguese and a Portuguese person wanted to learn English or German or you know, you can basically language swap and there are groups where they have that especially I think more perhaps like student groups, that would be more of a thing.
So like Erasmus groups and whatnot, that could be really good place to find interesting people, expats or locals, if you want to, like get in touch with locals, and you're there. I think language 10 M is a great way to actually meet people, local people and get to know their culture, and how they speak their language in a war, you know, own gangs, or like, street style, slang way rather than the official like, I don't know, the way they teach you in classrooms. It's just I feel like people don't actually talk like that.
So yeah, I would. That's something that I really love doing is language, tandems and I genuinely you don't even have to be a part of these groups to meet these people. You can even just meet them. If they're working at a cafe or just meet them on the streets or something they sit next to you, you have a conversation like you don't have to be a part of a group. It doesn't have to be so intimidating, that you can just strike up a conversation with a local and just make friends that way if you don't have a problem with striking conversations with strangers. All right, our next one is 12345.
I'm yeah, you can tell I, I lose my count quite quickly. Number five other fun hobbies. Like for me, it's like ceramics classes dance classes. When I was in severe, for example, I just met some random people who were doing salsa classes. And they were like, Yeah, do you want to come to salsa? And I was like, I don't have a partner. They're like, and so well. And I was like, Cool. Yeah, I'll come. So I happened to magically have another girlfriend who wanted to join. And so we, we were each other's partners.
And it was quite hilarious. And it didn't matter. We just had a really good time. And it was so fun. And so yeah, ceramics class is a great one. I definitely want to get more into that. But whatever your hobbies are, find a group of people like either Facebook groups or like through the app meetups, or even just like start chatting to locals and find out how you can be a part of Google it. It's a really great way to integrate yourself into a community of like minded people who do things that yeah, who value similar things to you.
I think it's always Yeah, as a special group of people and I think you deserve to give yourself that especially when you're travelling alone. Okay, now number six, I kind of touched on this already, but it's working from cafes, and having the courage to speak to others and it doesn't have to be Cafe could be anywhere but the I mean, for example, you could be out running or at the gym. And you could just like up the courage to speak to somebody, right? But yeah, the basis of this is just, ya know, set aside your ego, you are in a new place, who's going to know you, if the person doesn't want to speak to you then try somebody else.
But I mean, I, I meet the most interesting people in cafes, and when I have the courage to talk to them, I met my current partner at a cafe. And I think I was the one who actually had the courage to speak to him first. He was sitting in the seat that I was usually always sitting in. And, and yeah, just had a conversation. And it's not strange, I think in this day and age where we are so used to texting and communication, like virtual communication through our phone, like, I feel like we've really forgotten how to have real physical conversations.
And if someone like, comes up to us and has an actual conversation with us, and we don't know them, it's almost like, What the fuck, like, I didn't give you permission to come talk to me or something. It just, it feels really weird. And I do get that from some people. It's like, I smile at them, or I kind of have a conversation with them. And usually the young people are like, like, I don't generally okay, I have to say this net, this rarely rarely happens.
But when it does, it's kind of like, like, Oh, what the fuck? Like, why are you talking to me? Ever? Like, Well, fine, okay, fine. But generally, like, that happens, maybe like 1% of the time. What most people are actually really welcoming, I would say, because it doesn't happen so often, when somebody does come up to you, and just have a random conversation for the sake of connecting and having a random conversation. It kind of really stands out. And yeah, you kind of leave a good impression. And well, yeah, I mean, if you ask, Hey, like, I want to, I'm looking for recommendations, or maybe just looking for some cool people to hang out with, like you taking that code and being the first person to initiate it. I feel like most people would see that in quite a positive light and be like, yeah, she's cool.
He's cool. Like, I'd say, Let's hang out or something. So, yeah, just don't let your fear of being seen as like some creepy person, detract you from the amazing people and communities that you could be a part of. That's all I wanted to say on that. Number seven, saying yes to things and really prioritising meeting people when you first arrive.
And especially if you're going to be in a place, say, a month, or longer this first week, or just the first phase of you arriving, it's really going to set the foundation for the rest of your time there. I would say if I hadn't spent the first well, my entire day. Oh my Lisbon time, but like, especially at the very start being quite I wouldn't say aggressive, but like active Lee looking for groups to be a part of, and scouting like, hey, what types of what kind of people do I want to be around? What types of people do I want to have in my life that I feel nourished by? And you it's kind of like trial and error. It's you Yeah, you win some you lose some.
And I remember going to a crypto event. Because I was like, oh, crypto is like a real big scene here. And it's been I want to be a part of this. I went to a crypto event. And it felt that the vibes were quite not it was quite cold, I would say and I felt like when I tried to talk to people about crypto because I'm a newbie, and I have no idea about anything crypto related. And when people would be like, yeah, so where are you on your crypto journey? And I'd be like, Oh, I just started there. Ah, and immediately lost interest in talking to me because I had no value to give.
And so it felt a lot like, Oh, if you're not someone I can take from or learn from or, you know, advanced my crypto journey on then you're not cool enough to for my time to talk to and I really felt that and it was quite sad actually. Because I'm sure there are lots of nice people there but it just felt quite take take take and not a lot of give. There wasn't a balance between like taking and giving. So I didn't feel really welcomed in that community. And I decided for myself, these aren't really the people that I want to have in my life while I'm here in Lisbon.
So, screw it, I left that scene. And yeah, just kind of kept going to find other groups of people. And I would say one of my favourite groups of people were definitely the Lisbon digital nomads community, they have like, they have a they're a massive group of people who run these organisers, you could say, who run the events. And yeah, it's just, they're just great people. And through some of the organisers, they would invite me to their dinner parties, or they would invite me to another event. And I would just say yes, and keep saying yes, to the things that felt aligned.
And I would keep meeting more incredible people through that. So say yes, to as many things but also, then, you know, check yourself and say no to things that no longer feel aligned to you. So that you can make space for saying, like more yeses to more of the things that actually feel aligned for you and that nourish you. Okay, so last thing I want to touch on. And this has been a way longer episode than I was anticipating, but just, it's quite fresh for me and I am quite emotional about this. So lots coming. Um, last thing I want to touch on was like, should you have a base, or should you continuously move around every, say 234 months, so like, that would be like kind of slow moving around. So let's touch on having a base first.
Having a base is nice to have a community and friends to go back to you have a routine to go back to you know where everything is you have your things still in one place. So you're not up and routine your life and taking your entire belongings with you everywhere all the time, you can leave some things there, and it feels like home. And you kind of feel a sigh of relief to be back. It's so beautiful, and you appreciate it even more after having gone away. So for me, as you can probably hear in my voice already, having a base is really important for me, and I prefer having a base.
But it's important to have a base in a place that feels like home for you and your heart and you that you have a community of people that you actually really love. So, I will I will say that moving on slow madding around. So like every you basically bring your entire life belongings with you every four to six months or something.
And I would say this might be great for people who have just started this lifestyle, and you want to explore the world, and you don't actually know where you want to be just yet. Whereas having a basis, like I have explored so many countries, I've been to so many places. And I felt like I had explored enough to now have a wide pool of places to make a choice from. But if you're just starting out, you kind of want to like build that database build that like experience. And so this is great. However, the I would say the hardest thing about slow matting around is because you have time to build relationships and build a routine and really get to know places and people over a period of say, four to six months then.
And then you go your separate ways. It feels like you're constantly starting from scratch. And if you're an emotional person like me, it breaks my heart every time I have to move again. And I really started to question like, Why the hell do I keep doing this to myself? And well, yeah, I mean, I've explained why already. But it's still, like one of those rhetorical questions is like questioning our life decisions. This is so hard, but you know, you have to keep moving. But it's sad anyway to say goodbye to really special people because sometimes you leave and they stay.
Or both of you leave for example, if you're doing an Erasmus semester or you're friends with people who are also slow matting around and you know, you know, just people come and go from your life and you the beautiful lesson that you learn is non attachment, and that everything is fleeting and that everyone is fleeting in your life, but it's still a hard lesson to learn. Lastly, just kind of condensing that into a summary. Lisbon.
Like, is that perfect base for me and I have moved around and lived into They're many different countries. But none of them had the community quite like the one in Lisbon. And so, I think it's really important to find, for me to have like open minded digital nomads and entrepreneurs who value a balanced lifestyle. It's not just the hustle, the fame or the money.
And so while I still will have sporadically these nomadic periods, like like the one I'm doing now, Lisbon will always be home for me and my heart, I will I always see myself going back to Lisbon. Even though I don't have a date for when I'm going to be back, I will be back. If you got to the end of this episode, I just want to say thank you for listening. i This ended up being a longer episode than I expected because it felt so fresh to me. And there was so much on my heart that I wanted to share.
So I really Yeah, I really appreciate your your listening time. And I wanted to end this episode with a with a poem or a section from one of my favourite poems. It's by Araya mountain dreamer. And the poem title is called the invitation maybe you've heard it's one of my favourite poems ever. And this this particular part, which I wanted to read out to you, and it goes like this, it doesn't interest me where or what or with whom you have studied, I want to know what sustains you from the inside, when all else falls away. I want to know if you can be alone with yourself.
And if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments. And that just ties in really beautifully with this concept of like, can you be alone by yourself? And the difference between being lonely and more feeling lonely and being alone? So I thought that was a fitting way to end this episode. Let me know what you thought of it. If you resonate with this or you're in a period where you feel you feel lonely and you're seeking a community. Please do reach out. Maybe there are some groups that I can or people that I can put you in touch with, especially if you're in Lisbon.
You can DM me on Instagram probably the best place at Emily Peilan. I'll link it down below. And yeah, just again, thank you for listening. I hope you have a beautiful day, wherever you are, and I will catch you in the next episode, or a new way friends, stay wild. Stay adventurous and I'll see you next time.
